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Wholesale. Part 2, Subsection A

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I just had a good chat with my pal Jen Mecca.  She'll hopefully chime in here at some point but we talked about the wholesale thing, so I thought I'd put some of it out here.

I am still getting my feet wet in this market so keep that in mind.  I do welcome those who have had more experience to comment.  That would be helpful to many of us.

My perception is that wholesale buyers are gallery owners who care about art and craft and the artists who's work they carry. (That may not always be true)  They are there to help us and promote us and our work.  If they are willing to buy our work I'd say it's up to us to make the best we can at any given time, to be punctual  with orders, and have good relationships with the galleries that are putting our work out.

Jen made the point that often times many of us, when just starting out, are willing to do just about anything to get our work out.  I think that's true.  As we become (hopefully) more successful in our careers we begin to care about having our work move out into more spaces and taken more seriously.  (Not everyone of course goes this route  and does just fine).

I want to clarify that I am talking about retail art galleries here.  I'm not speaking so much about a gallery that is your "representative" in the sense that many are for painters and sculptors. (Actually, clumping 'galleries' all together in one word is probably too general anyhow)

Jen and I wondered if other artists out there have noticed that some buyers are now wanting to consign due to the lower economy.  Anyone had that experience?  How do you feel about that?

Also, when a gallery does buy work at wholesale, 50%, I usually expect it to be marked up twice that.  Should a gallery notify the artist if the work is going to be sold for more?  I have heard people say over and over, "don't under sale your galleries."  (For instance, I shouldn't sell my pots from my showroom or at a craft show for a lower price).  If that's the case then should the gallery be allowed to mark it up?  If they have prime real estate in NYC should the pots be more there than in a shop outside of Atlanta? (not that I have work in either of those places!)

Exclusivity seems to be a big issue too.  I am okay with agreeing to not having work at a competitor's space that is nearby.  How close is 'nearby'? Same city? Same zip code?  How does that work?  I don't think there are any set rules.  And should I grant a shop exclusivity if they are consigning my work? I think I'd be more willing to grant it to a wholesale buyer.

Still, it's all not very clear what the 'rules' are or if there are any.  It seems to me that it's up to the agreement between the artist and the shop owner.  Like any relationship things can go smoothly, or take a tumble.

Often we are asked to sign a contract with a shop or gallery.  Should we as artists have contracts of our own?  Why not?  What are our rights as the creators of the work we make?  Shouldn't we ask for the very best that we, or our work deserve?  Once the work sells to a shop I guess it's theirs.  True?  Anyone have anything like this?

I hope I'm not muddling around too much here.

I feel like I have good relationships with the few shops I work with at the moment.  I am willing to make things work out best for both parties involved.  I think communication is important and any problems should be worked out as they arise.

As for taking orders I know many potters have their own methods.  Currently I have a $500 minimum order for the first order (that would be $1000 worth of pots, retail).  I expect payment to be made upon delivery.  I have a wholesale sheet with my pots listed and all the other pertinent information.  I charge actual shipping costs plus a 6% packing fee.  I don't have a minimum for future orders.  I also give 30 days for payment on future orders.   I do make exceptions sometimes with the minimum and I've worked with people on payment too.  I figure I will need them to be flexible with me someday plus I'm just a nice guy, you know.

If pots are delivered to a gallery should there be a 'delivery fee'?  A bit less than the shipping cost?  I think some artists make a big run and deliver to several galleries along the way.  What if a gallery owner comes and picks up the order?  They don't have to pay shipping, I don't have to pack it for UPS or USPS.  That's pretty good for both of us.

Well, that's all for now.

Intermission

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If you ordered pots from my Esty Shop they have all gone out either UPS or USPS.  So you should have them soon.  Thanks!


I'll be writing Part 3  soon.  Be sure to go back and look at the comments for Parts 1 and 2. Some good stuff there, feel free to add to the conversation, or just mention that you are reading (it helps to know).

Part 2.

I've blogged about my Home Sale HERE and HERE and HERE.  This way of selling, right from the studio, has always been my preferred way of moving my pots.  It was important to me from the beginning to know my customers and to have that personal relationship with the folks who were buying and using my work.  It also allowed me to keep my prices low and probably sell to folks who otherwise may not have bought handmade pots (this is my perception, I could be a bit too romantic about this).

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Mel Jacobson, who is the moderator of the listserv Clayart, has always said, take care of, and market to people in a 50 mile radius of your studio and that will be a great base of customers.  Of course I think this greatly depends on where you live.  I live 60 miles from the biggest city in NC but I sell more pots to people from my county than from the city when I have a studio sale.

I've never liked consigning pots to shops or galleries.  In my opinion I am stocking their shop for free.  Yes I may get 60% or 70% of the sale but I just don't feel like the owner has fully committed to me.  How do I know if they are really displaying my work in a good way or promoting it, are they trying to sell it or just using it for filler and window dressing? Now there are exceptions of course.  I do have good relationships with a couple galleries that I consign to.  I do not just consign to anyone who asks.

Still, I'd much rather a gallery buy from me directly.  This means wholesale which is 50% of my retail price.  If they are spending that money then I pretty much believe that they are going to try and sell my work.  I only began pursuing galleries for wholesale in the last few years.  I was more confident in my work and wanted to get it out there in the world.  It did mean I lost personal contact with my customer, but hopefully folks can find me on the internet if they try; some of them eventually make it out to the studio.

About a year after I switched to earthenware and started decorating more I raised my prices.  Right now my prices are almost double what they were when I was making salt glaze pots.  My thought process has changed, I feel better about the work and I feel like I am producing a consistent line of work within the ranges, asthetically and monetarily, that I am able.

I called Jeff Oestreich a few years into making pots.  I asked him how he marketed his work.  He told me about selling from his showroom, selling at exhibitions, and though galleries.  His bottom line was, "I don't put all my eggs in one basket."  I think that's good advice.  I would add to that, Pick and choose carefully where you put your eggs.

One of my setbacks early on was that I set myself up with preconceived notions about many things.  I could have tried a bit harder to market myself, but fear and doubt held me back.  Being self taught and never having gone through an apprenticeship or art school program meant I had to learn on my own.  I had some good role models and mentors that I am thankful for.

I'll leave it there for now.  More in Part 3.  Please leave any questions or comments in the Comments section.  I'd like to hear what you have to say.

Part 1.


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My Holiday Sale officially ended on Sunday.  I still have a few orders that I am finishing up for folks.  In years past I would have had my last firing in the salt kiln just before Thanksgiving and would not have fired again until late February.  The ways in which I sell pots has changed over the last few years.  I want to talk a bit about that and hopefully get some discussion going here on the blog.


Since 1996 I have held 4 sales per year here at the pottery.  These sales were my main income for the year.  I could make enough at a sale to get by for 3 months.  For many of those years I had low expenses, no health insurance, and my world pretty much revolved around pottery.  When I started making pots I wanted to be the 'town potter' selling pots for everyday use at affordable prices.  That's what I did.  I made pots that were about form, no decoration, and fired in a salt or reduction glaze kiln.  My cups were $12, bowls $15, and I think the most expensive pot was $80.  I built up a good following of locals and had successful sales at the studio.


I started doing craft shows sometime around 2000 or 2001. I had held off on this because I never had a lot of confidence in my work and was afraid to be seen out in the world.  I never did loads of shows like many craftspeople do.  The most I did in any given year was probably 10, plus having my 4 home sales.  I never made very good money at craft shows.  My brown, salt glazed pots did not grab the average person's attention and get them into the booth.  I was not idle at shows.  I am an active talker to customers, friendly, but not pushy, excited about my pots.  I think being passionate about my work and talking about  it really helped me sell pots to strangers.  This was unlike my home sales where people knew what to expect when they came here, I pretty much educated my home sale customers over the years and got them excited about my aesthetic.


Work sold on consignment to a shop or two followed.  This usually meant that I was getting 60% or 70% of my retail price and the shop kept the rest.  I was never to keen on consignment and I am not now.  I'll talk more about that later.


I really avoided wholesale for a long time.  Of course my pots were way to cheap anyway but the real reason was that I didn't know how to form a relationship with a gallery owner and I was worried that I did not have a consistent enough body of work to take wholesale orders.  I was firing my salt kiln every month often experimenting with new clays  and slips.  My home sale customers appreciated this variety, but I wasn't sure a gallery would.


I learned in time that all craft shows weren't created equal and that I had to pay attention to which ones were successful for me.  It turns out that here in NC there are several pottery only shows and those have been the best for me.  I belong to a pottery guild in the Charlotte region that holds two sales a year, these have been good too.  I did the  American Craft Council show a few years in Charlotte.  It was a bust.  Eventually this ACC show was discontinued in Charlotte.


Okay that's a bit of back ground. I don't want these posts to get too long so I'm going to break them up.  Part 2. Later will talk more about how I feel about selling pots presently.


Sunday

c7Today is the last official day of my Holiday Sale which has ran for the past two weekends.  The showroom will remain open until the 23rd.  It's been a pretty good sale.  Thanks for everyone who has been out.  This sale used to be my biggest of the year.  That has changed significantly over the past 4 or 5 years.  I'm going to talk more about that and other related things this week.



My online sale has been better than I expected.  It's really amazing to be able to put the work out there and know that anyone in the world can view it and purchase it if they wish.  I want to put more energy into my online market in 2010 and see where that leads.

Lots to do today, including glazing those 60 small dishes, and packing pots to ship.  I hope everyone out there is doing well.  Thanks for checking in.

Oh and I did get the table cleared off.

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My Mess.

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Sarah came down this morning and circled both her hands over this table (our kitchen table) and said, " will you please work on cleaning up this Ron explosion before I get home from work?".  Ha. She's so sweet, and tactful.

Online Sale is still happening HERE.

Holiday Sale at the Pottery continues this weekend. Sat. 10 till 5, Sun. Noon till 4.

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My Online Sale starts tomorrow, Dec. 3rd, at 1pm EST.


Click HERE to get to the shop.



I'm going to wait on starting that whole discussion about selling pots until next week.  Too much other stuff going on between now and this weekend. So stay tuned for that topic.

In Need

IMG_2258I threw out all my studio towels recently.  They were all done in.  Today the only clean towel in the studio was this rag of a dish towel.  I threw just over 75 pots today and it's pretty much had it.  Guess I'll hose it out tomorrow and dry it in the sun.  I'll have to scrounge up some used towels for the studio soon.

Back to Work. And Upcoming Topic for Discussion

IMG_2227_cr I just got an order for 60 little dishes.  Looks like it's back to the wheel today.  I'm thankful for the work.



I've been thinking a lot lately about how I'm selling and marketing my pots.  Things have changed quite a bit for me over the last two years (since the switch to earthenware and more decorating).  I will be posting soon about this change and how I feel about selling from my shop, working with galleries (wholesale and consignment), and doing retail craft shows.  It may take a few installments.  I hope this topic will prompt some discussion here in the comments.  So be thinking about it and we'll see what happens.

Online Sale starts Thursday.

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Hi Folks,
It's a nice, slow Monday here for a change.  We had a great 3 day weekend sale here at the pottery.  Thanks everyone who came out and supported us.

I will be posting pots in my Etsy shop on Thursday.  If you live far away then this is a chance to get some pots.  I'll have a good variety, mugs, small and medium bowls, plates, bakers, just to name a few.  I've got a full day ahead of me to get it all photographed and listed.


Online Sale this Week.

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This is a shot from the showroom on Friday evening.  I've had a good weekend, but still have pots for next weekend too.  Hope you'll make it out if you are in the area.

For those of you farther away, I will posting pots on my Etsy site towards the end of this week.  I'll announce the day and time tomrrow.  I have some nice pots to post there so stay tuned.

Thanks for checking in.

Holiday Sale

My Holiday Sale begins TODAY.
Friday, Nov. 27th and Saturday Nov. 28th, 10 am till 5 pm
Sunday Nov. 29th  Noon till 4pm

and continues the next weekend



Saturday, Dec. 5th 10 am till 5pm
Sunday, Dec. 6th Noon till 4 pm

757 Wallace Grove Road Shelby NC 28150


Hot pots just out of the kiln this morning.

Pots on Thanksgiving Eve

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Just unloaded a kiln of great pots!!! Yey!  Very exciting.  I'll put up a few pics now and maybe more in the morning (although I'm sure most everyone here in the States will be busy,busy tomorrow with Thanksgiving).

IMG_2208I had two of these double dishes (below). I'll be making more of them in the future.


IMG_2214I think this is the best mouse I've drawn lately.


IMG_2215Here's a small cup with a pistol grip handle.  Some folks just like the one finger handle you know.  Pretty good bird too.


IMG_2216Popped in a load of plates, bakers and the one jar I made after I shot these pics.  Should have hot pots for the Opening on Friday.



Time for bed, gotta get up and put that turkey in the oven first thing in the morning.

Holiday Sale

My Holiday Sale begins this week.
Friday, Nov. 27th and Saturday Nov. 28th, 10 am till 5 pm
Sunday Nov. 29th  Noon till 4pm

and continues the next weekend



Saturday, Dec. 5th 10 am till 5pm
Sunday, Dec. 6th Noon till 4 pm

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I'm gonna have a showroom full of pots.  I hope you'll come out if you're in the area.

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757 Wallace Grove Road
Shelby NC 28150

Aprons

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I made 87 pots this week, just over 100 if you count the small spoon rests I whipped out yesterday.  Sure that's no grand number by production potter accounts, but good for me and now I've got to draw on them all.  Oh, my aching shoulder.


A customer recently commented on how much he liked the slipped 'aprons' on my pots.  I hadn't thought of the wavey slip pattern at the bottom of the pots to being like an apron skirt, but yes they are! Cool.


These pots are all for my Holiday Sale.  I'm pretty much finished making for that event.  I sure would like to make a few more things, but if I'm gonna get this all fired I've got to stop.  I have special orders to fill before Christmas so I'll still get some wet days in next week.

Tuesday. Moving Right Along.

This is the list I started with for the week.  I made my way through it yesterday and today.  I made a few adjustments along the way.  I think I only made 18 cups but I added 4 tankards, and I threw 12 plates today instead of 15.  I decided to make 3 medium size mixing bowls too.  I really like a  mixer this size, they are good for scrambling eggs or mixing dressing.

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I only made one jar.  I'm sort of in jar limbo right now. Not knowing exactly what shape I want them to be.  I have plenty of jars in the showroom too so I didn't feel bad for skipping out on the last two.


I totally skipped luncheon plates.  I decided to double the number of pasta bowls instead.  It's been awhile since I made any and I was having a good go with them.  Luncheon plates can wait.


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Sarah suggested some creamers so I made 4 of those first thing this morning. You can see them below on the left.  They won't get a handle.  I like to put those two little dimples in the sides and that's just fine to pick them up.

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I made two of these  double dishes too.  It's been a couple of years since I've made any of these.  They will get a handle (probably) tomorrow).

IMG_2162 I didn't make the animals yet.  Probably do that tomorrow if I have time.  There's plenty of trimming to do now and then slipping and drawing.  Also going to see Neko Case tomorrow night!!!!  Fun night out with our friends Jen Mecca and her husband Joey.



Oh and I made some spoon rests today too.  Ha, just a little something of an inexpensive item to have on hand for the Sale.